An interview with Mikki Norris
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Published on La Voce di Romagna (Italy), 11th
August 2005
by Simone Mariotti
"I am an educated woman who graduated with honors with
a Bachelor's degree in sociology and a Master's degree in Special Education.
I used to teach hearing-impaired children and English as a Second Language in
Adult School and at a community college, until I became a full-time drug policy
reformer. I am now a writer and social justice activist. I like to exercise,
dance, sing, read, keep up with the latest TV shows and movies, and eat good
food and travel. I am married to a wonderful man and enjoy time with my family
and friends. I have a good driving record and have never been arrested. I maintain
a nice home in a good neighborhood, and I recycle. I pay taxes, earn an honest
living, don't carry any debt, and I vote regularly. By the way, I am not that
different from other cannabis consumers".
That's Mikki Norris, 53, speaking from California, and one
of the American leaders of the cannabis ant prohibitionist movement. Three years
ago she started the Cannabis Consumer Campaign. She's going to tell about it
in today's long interview to The Voice. A hard job in a such repressive (and
destructive) legislation like the USA one. And Italy risks to become the same
should be the terrible Fini Lex to be approved.
Good morning Mikky. To start with, remove a doubt from us: are cannabis
consumers so bad persons as someone says they are?
I look at people who use cannabis, and I'm struck by the fact that they are
amongst the most intelligent, talented, interesting, fun, caring, hard-working,
successful, honest and decent people that I know. They live their lives just
like everyone else. They work, pay taxes, value their families and contribute
to their communities. And then I think about how all of these people are considered
criminals in the eyes of the law.
It doesn't make sense. We, cannabis consumers, are stigmatized and called names
like "pothead", "druggie" and "loser," simply
because we choose to partake of the God-given plant, cannabis a.k.a. marijuana.
The widely-used chemical analysis or so-called "drug test" now determines
whether or not someone is qualified to perform a job, participate in school
activities, be a parent, or stay out of jail rather than his or her qualifications,
work history, references, and actual performance. In essence, we are judged
by our urine, sweat, saliva, and hair, rather than by our actions or behavior.
This is discrimination.
Which are the most unpleasant consequences?
Cannabis consumers are banned from jobs, lose benefits and pensions, lose custody
of our children and housing, and live our lives vulnerable to arrest, prosecution,
and incarceration -- in some instances for many years. The government can seize
our money, property, and assets and freedom for growing our favorite plant in
our yards.
But the prohibition didn't stop the consumption, did it?
Right. Despite the harsh consequences of marijuana prohibition, millions of
people use cannabis everyday. It's considered the most popular drug after alcohol
and tobacco. The majority use it on an occasional basis - at a party, to take
a walk in nature, or when offered a toke by a friend. Many people use it regularly
much like alcohol to help unwind and relax after a day's work, to enhance their
appetites, listen to music or watch TV, to stimulate their creative juices,
to get in better touch with their spirituality or sexuality, to help them cope
with a myriad of ailments, or just for the sheer fun of it. Most incorporate
its use into their lives in a responsible manner, without any problems - unless,
of course, they get caught by the police for simply possessing, cultivating
it, or selling it to someone else.
How Many consumers are there in the USA?
Everyone knows a cannabis consumer, they just don't know it. An estimated 100
million people in the US have tried it, and about 15 million use it regularly.
Cannabis consumers come from all walks of life. We are working people and businesspeople,
professionals, doctors, lawyers, CEOs, computer programmers, teachers, students,
artists, musicians, athletes, and everything in between. We are your friends,
neighbors, family members, co-workers, role models, and elected officials. But,
you may not know that, because too many of us are afraid and scared to let this
aspect of our lives be known.
What is the Cannabis Consumers Campaign?
It's an Internet-based public education project designed to help dispel society's
fear surrounding adult cannabis use. Our goal is to repeal marijuana laws and
replace it with a system of regulation similar to the way alcohol is treated
in society. By challenging the negative stereotypes, myths and depictions of
people who use cannabis with real life examples of people who actually incorporate
cannabis into their lives in a beneficial manner, we hope to change societal
attitudes and lose the excuse for marijuana prohibition. Looking at the various
profiles and photos and learning about the lives of admitted cannabis consumers
on the web site, www.cannabisconsumers.org, the public, media, and policy makers
will realize that criminalizing people who are contributing, functional, productive,
normal members of society is an enormous waste of taxpayer dollars and law enforcement
resources.
An important component of this campaign is to advocate for equal rights and
equal protections of the law for cannabis consumers. While cannabis use is generally
accepted to be associated with fewer problems and harms to the individual and
society than most legal drugs (including alcohol and tobacco) and pharmaceuticals,
its classification as a Schedule I drug in the Controlled Substances Act (same
as heroin) can bring severe penalties to the user. There is a great disparity
in the rights afforded to the alcohol drinker and the tobacco smoker and those
denied to the responsible cannabis consumer. We must alert the public to the
unfairness and injustice of our status as second-class citizens. This campaign
calls for equal rights and a regulatory system that treats cannabis use and
sales like alcohol. We just want to be held to the same obligations, standards
and civic responsibilities and behavior as everyone else in society is. We deserve
nothing less. This should be inherent to a free society.
But alcohol is forbidden to the minors!
Let me be clear. We are not advocating that everyone use it. Some people do
not like it or respond well to its effects. Like alcohol, I personally believe
that minors should not use it and resources should be spent discouraging their
using it, unless it is recommended by a doctor to treat some medical problem.
But, it should be a choice legally available to adults to pursue on their own
time, in a responsible manner (not acting recklessly or endangering others),
and in acceptable settings.
Why did you create this project?
Through my work with the Human Rights and the Drug War exhibit project (see
www.hr95.org), I learned how our government breaks up and destroys individuals
and their families by sentencing even first-time, non-violent drug offenders
to mandatory minimum sentences of five, 10, 20 years, and Life. In our book,
Shattered Lives: Portraits from America's Drug War (Creative Xpressions, 2000),
my co-authors and I expose horror stories and photos of people who have been
victimized by US drug policies. Looking at the Drug War in the context of the
United Nation's Universal Declaration on Human Rights, we have found that the
US is in violation of many of its Articles, especially its protections against
cruel and unusual punishment, destroying the integrity of the family, search
and seizure protections, race and cultural discrimination, religious freedom,
and many more.
And this situation has created a big prison problem, right?
Exactly. In dealing with the "drug problem" as a criminal justice
rather than a public health issue, the US has created a vast prison population
that is feeding into a growing Prison Industrial Complex. There are currently
about 450,000 people serving time in prisons and jails on drug offenses (out
of an inmate population of 2 million)- a number greater than the EU's entire
prison population (and Europe has many millions more citizens than we have).
About 750,000 people are arrested for marijuana each year - with 88% for simple
possession alone - translating into fines, jail, attorneys fees, job loss.
The Drug War has created much injustice that is found in stories like Jodie
Israel's, a young mother who was sentenced to 11 years as a first-time, non-violent
marijuana along with her husband who was sentenced to 29 years. The government
orphaned their four children, and they were forced to live in four different
homes when both parents went to prison. Many low-level offenders (with only
minor involvement in a drug transaction) and especially women are often serving
the longest prison sentences on conspiracy charges for simply being in the wrong
place at the wrong time or for not informing on husbands or boyfriends.
According to a study completed by Harvard economist, Jeffrey Miron, the US spends
about $7.7 billion each year arresting and incarcerating people for marijuana
offenses. We have to stand up to this injustice and say "enough."
Too many people are going to prison. Too much money is being thrown away on
this failed prohibitionist policy. Today there are more, cheaper drugs available
and many, many more users than when they were outlawed. Young people say that
it's easier to obtain marijuana than alcohol, because you don't need an ID to
get it in an underground market. Cannabis is a product that should be controlled,
taxed and regulated. It has the potential to raise billions of dollars in new
revenue to offset budget deficits and pay for much-needed social services, education,
and health care.
Can you tell us something about cannabis consumers? Who are they?
I have gathered data from over 1700 surveys submitted about who cannabis consumers.
Contrary to the stereotypes, I have learned that we come from all segments of
society, all socio-economic and religious backgrounds, ethnicities and races,
all political parties, and all age groups. Many earn advanced degrees (like
AA, BA, MA, Ph.D., MD, JD) and licenses in a variety of fields. We are interested
in learning and helping others. We are well represented in the computer industry,
which could explain why many computer businesses have stopped drug testing employees.
We work in a variety of fields. We have many interests. Far from being losers,
we are doers and achievers.
Can you give us some examples?
TIM is a middle-aged sales executive in corporate insurance. He is a member
of an economic club of his city, an athletic club, the Chamber of Commerce,
and the Christ Church, and on the Board of Directors for a health plan corporation.
He enjoys gardening, yoga, politics, reading, and travel.
DAVID has been smoking cannabis since he was 17 years old in 1946. He is a former
television personality who interviewed many well-known celebrities. He's won
several awards for public speaking and is currently a writer. He generally smokes
at night, and uses cannabis for creativity, sexual enhancement, as a sleep aid,
medically (for pain associated with a back injury when racing stock cars while
in his 20s and following recent surgery to treat cancer), writing, relaxation,
as an appetite stimulant, and for music appreciation.
AMANDA is a graduate student of social work at a prestigious university. She
states, "I am an intelligent, highly motivated and academically successful
woman and scientist. I have never hit another person; I have adopted three cats
from animal shelters and am a vegetarian. I am the accountant for my Home Owner's
Association. I own my own home and have no debt. I have a wonderful relationship
with my family and I adore them. I have a happy, stable marriage and I have
counseled rape survivors and inner city children. I believe in peace and social
justice. I vote and I encourage others to do the same. I also smoke cannabis
almost every day. I have a digestive disorder that results in horrendous abdominal
pain. I have tried various prescription medicines and have had inconsistent
relief. Cannabis is the only medicine that consistently keeps the pain at bay.
It's [also] like yoga for the mind and increases cognitive and creative flexibility".
AL is a computer scientist and a consultant/entrepreneur. He has been an invited
member of two National Academy of Science panels, and sits on the board of a
city repertory theatre. He enjoys the performing arts, dance, plays, jazz, blues,
science, philosophy, politics, religion.
TONY is a former chief inspector of police from Hong Kong. He speaks three European
and two Asian languages, and he's interested in cultural and linguistic studies,
healing arts, music, literature, travel and diving. For his service he received
a Colonial Police Long Service & Good Conduct Medal (Hong Kong). He is currently
a writer and editor-in-chief for trade publishing house and freelance contributor
to various publications and volunteers with the disabled. Tony states, "Initially
anti-drug in my views, I observed that the people I knew who used cannabis were
generally more intelligent, sensitive and articulate than non-users. I realized
that if the anti-drug propaganda were true, this was unlikely to be 'despite'
their use. I then considered the possibility that it might be 'because' of their
use and consequently experimented with cannabis. The experience convinced me
that the latter hypothesis was more likely correct and I have been a user ever
since.
Have somebody had any problems for being in your web site?
Fortunately not, although there is some risk in "coming out" in today's
political climate. A few have asked to be removed when changing jobs for fear
it could impact their chances of getting hired. Still, many survey respondents
have experienced previous problems - with the law, discrimination at the workplace,
or strain on relationships from disapproving loved ones. One nurse lost her
license for drug testing positive for THC, despite a respectable work history.
Drug testing stops some people from even applying for jobs. We've heard from
people who were fired after twenty years of exemplary service to a company due
to testing positive for THC on a random urine test.
What do cannabis consumers think of themselves?
A surprisingly common response to the survey question, "How has cannabis
enhanced your lives?" is that people believe that cannabis makes them "better
people." They say that cannabis makes them more tolerant, patient, accepting
of other's flaws, open-minded, in a better mood and able to cope with depression,
and less angry. It helps them achieve a different perspective about their problems.
They find that it gives them the opportunity to meet new people and bond with
a diverse group of friends. Some even say that cannabis makes them better parents.
Rather than drinking alcohol after coming home from work all tired and stressed
and wanting to be left alone or fly into a rage, they smoke a joint, instead,
and become more patient and play with their children or read them a book.
Finally, what do you want to say as an end?
A public image based on reality and not the lies perpetuated by the government,
media, or special interest groups will help us achieve this goal. It requires
courage for the first ones to come out, but it will become easier and easier
as more people follow this example. In time, hopefully, society will look back
and realize how ridiculous and sadistic the policies that made criminals out
of non-criminals were. We will all be much better off when we recognize the
wisdom of Jesus Christ's words, "Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth
a man; that which cometh out of the mouth defileth a man." (Matthew 15:11).
In other words, let's judge people by their actions and their characters, not
by what they consume.
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